I also respect other beliefs, and it is important as a Christian for me not to judge. But I would like to make a few observations, and request some information. While yes, the bible does not outright say discipline your wife. It most certainly has many teachings that make it clear that not only is it accepted, it is expected. First we can take examples from God himself, as his bride is many times referred to as the people, and city of Israel. He punishes his bride many times. Hosea 2 is an excellent example of it clearly making the husband and wife relationship, and it clearly talks about his punishment for disobedience. It even goes as far as maintaining the description by focusing on calling Isreal the wife, and how she is being punished, and even humiliated, by the husband in this case God.
“ She no longer acts like my wife.
She no longer treats me like her husband.
Tell her to stop acting like a prostitute.
Tell her to remove the lovers from between her breasts.
3 If she refuses, I will strip her.
I will leave her as naked as the day she was born.
I will turn her into a dry and barren land,
and she will die of thirst.
4 I won’t love her children,
because they are children of a prostitute.”
How about Jesus well he does it also. Several times. Now keep in mind the reference of bride, and groom made with the church, and Christ. Well here is what he says to seven churches as he gets angry with them and rebukes and disciplines them. Even uses the word discipline in 1 Corinthians 4:21
“For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power. 21What do you prefer? Shall I come to you with a rod of discipline, or shall I come in love and with a gentle spirit?”
Hmmm so from what I see with this he knows that there are two ways to deal with his bride. Rod of discipline, or gentle sprit. I would assume emulation of Christ is ideal. Well you could say that he is trying to say that they would not like that so he is not condoning discipline. Well he totally does here, he directly answers this and surprise to me he seems to be a lot more hash than I would be to my wife. He tells a parable of authority, and punishment. This defiantly applies to husband and wife, and I will explain later. Luke 12:47 - 48
“The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.”
Here he even advocates beatings, even if the submissive is unaware that what they did was a punishable offence. This surprised me as, I would not punish my wife without her knowing what she did was wrong. Jesus says nope, if its punishable, punish regardless of knowledge.
Well it says Master, and a husband is not master of a wife. Well yes he is. The bible uses the word Master when referring to wife’s husband. The word or term Baal is used to describe a husband to a wife. That word mean Lord, Master, Owner in modern translation. For example, Sarah called her husband Lord <baal> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal
), in other words she knows that he was her Master/Owner/Husband. Also, please keep in mind that this was a parable. Therefore there is no gender applied, and the role is master slave. I.E. Parent-Child, King-people, Judge-defendant, Boss-employee, Master-slave. The parable applied to all positions of power, or authority. Which is definatly what the bible describes a Husband-Wife relationship.
Finally, I would ask for some help on a few things that I see mentioned. I really don’t want to go away from a DD discussion, I hope it’s related enough to allow me to ask. I would like to know where in the bible does it say that a woman is the crowning glory of gods creation? Because it says the opposite here 1 Corinthians 11:7. Or being last created elevated her, because the bible explains why she was last created in Genesis. The bible clearly shows the purpose of eves creation Genesis 2:18 says that she was created for the purpose of being a helper to man. Not as his partner or someone he should listen to, but his helper. It is also important to note that what made god angry on the original Sin was the fact that Adam listened to Eve in the first place. Its literally the first things he says to Adan when he finds out what happened. Genisis 3:17
“To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’”
The first thing he did wrong, and got punished for was listening, and taking counsel from his wife, and god said to him get out, and take your stuff with you, BTW you’re going to die. Husbands are frequently thought to learn from their wives. Hmmm this one scares me because the bible teaches the opposite here 1 Timothy 2:11-14 it explains that it’s not allowed, and even goes as far and to give the reason why.
Last I want to re-iterate, I am not judging anyone. Please take what I say with a grain of salt your relationship with God is a personal one. I am just genuily curious, as my wife, and I are bible fundamentalist, and we go by scripture above all things, and not culture. I am just curious as to how things can be so contrary to what is written in the bible.